DALLAS (105.3 The Fan) -- Former Dallas Cowboys defensive lineman Jason Hatcher joined "Ben and Skin" in studio Tuesday for an explosive interview about his time in Dallas.
In a wide-ranging, hour-long discussion, Hatcher shared his opinion of Tony Romo's time with the Cowboys, especially 2016, when Romo broke a bone in his back and Dak Prescott took over his quarterback job. Hatcher, who played for the Cowboys from 2006-13, criticized Romo's leadership and said he would take Prescott over the CBS broadcaster any day.
"Romo didn't have the 'it' factor to make people around him better," Hatcher said. "I think when I was there he thought he was bigger than the team. It was like Romo and then the team. Like nobody in the locker room is really going to respect you like that. I really don't respect him as a player based on what he did to the team where a lot of people didn't see.
"He was a great player and got all the numbers and stuff, but I'll take Dak over Romo any day because Dak has the ability to make people around him better. You'll run through a wall for Dak but Romo, hell no."
When asked to clarify his remark about making people better, Hatcher went on to criticize Romo even more.
"Romo was feeling like he was a Brett Favre and I'm like, 'Dude, you ain't do nothing. What have you done? You got your own space that you leave ... don't come in the locker room and interact with your teammates, but you call yourself a leader? Nah, partner. It don't work like that,'" Hatcher said.
"He's got great numbers, but he's had so many opportunities. Like if I was a GM, Romo do not have the ability to make people around him want to play for him."
Hatcher also talked about the 2010 season, the year Wade Phillips was fired and Jason Garrett became interim head coach. The Cowboys were 1-7 when owner Jerry Jones elected to move on from Phillips and promote Garrett. After the promotion, Garrett led the Cowboys to a 5-3 record, and has been the team's head coach ever since.
Hatcher was asked about what happened around the time the Cowboys fired Phillips. Did the team quit on him?
"Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you the truth. I saw Jason Garrett sabotage this man," Hatcher said.
When asked whether he truly believed that, Hatcher said, "absolutely."
"We ran three plays, three freakin' plays (before Wade was fired). I don't care what the media say. We was flying around. We was out of pads in Week 7 (in 2009). We was beating people's heads in," Hatcher said. "Now we go into camp cupcake (in 2010) and do what Wade don't want to do. We get in pads, we beat each other down. We tired, we not fresh. And then you (Garrett) go and call three or four plays till this man gets fired."
Cowboys players who backed Phillips looked like they quit on the field before he was fired.
"When you know the truth and what's going on, you're like, 'Why the hell are we running three plays on offense?'" Hatcher said. "And then, to know the truth: After Wade get fired, you open up the playbook and we start scoring points?"
Hatcher also touched on suspended defensive lineman David Irving, an incident between Jay Ratliff and Jerry Jones, and much more during the stunning interview.