Former NFL executive Michael Lombardi doesn't have nice things to say about his former co-worker Bruce Allen as the 2019 NFL Draft draws closer.
Lombardi's contempt for the Redskins president dates back to their time together in Oakland.
"So let's start with the Redskins," Paulsen said introducing Lombardi. "Your boy, Bruce Allen, who you once worked with and said you guys tried to keep out of the football operations..."
"Changed the locks!" Rouhier interjected.
"He's running the show here in D.C.," Paulsen went on.
"We didn't have to (change the locks)," Lombardi jumped in. "He wasn't allowed. But go ahead."
"He and Dan Snyder apparently on the business side of things thinking a little differently than the football people, Jay Gruden and Kyle Smith," Paulsen said. "What do you think when you hear that about front offices maybe not being on the same page?"
"But as long as Bruce runs the team, Dan has somebody to take the heat and he can still run it. So when I tweeted out yesterday that Dan's always been running it, it's really a reflection of: because he can control Bruce."
When Rouhier fawned over how good of a Twitter follow Lombardi is, Lombardi replied, "You just like (me) cause I kill Bruce. That's why you follow me. You keep tweeting, 'send more,' right?"
"There's a difference between us saying something, and you, who worked with him," Paulsen noted. "I think there's a credibility. When you've been in the building with a guy, when you're a football background person who's been a GM like you, and you say something, it's got more weight.
"So when we say, 'Bruce isn't a football guy. He's a cap guy. He's a business guy. He's a survivor.' People can say, 'Oh, you guys just don't like him.' But when you're in the building and you say, 'Yeah, we really didn't want him to help us pick players,' I think it means more."
"Well, he never picked players," Lombardi recalled. "I mean he wouldn't even know how to scout. I mean, I'm not the only guy. Scot McCloughan says the same thing, too. I mean anybody who's been interactive with Bruce knows he's not a football guy. I know his dad was a legendary head coach, but he never came up that way. He came up a different way.
"If you were to ask him about, 'What is the true meaning of this draft?' And 'where the fifth rusher fits in, the fourth rusher,' and the value of this draft in terms of tight ends. 'What's an F? What's a Y?' You know, you're in a conversation that he's not gonna be able to handle."
This was followed by a genuine discussion about this year's quarterback class.
"I'm not in love with the quarterbacks in the draft," Lombardi said. "I think Kyler Murray's really talented. I think he really is talented. I have real troubles with somebody who can't see down the field."
"And I know the rhetoric about, well, he's a dropback passer," he noted. "College pass-rushing and the NFL pass-rushing are two entirely different things. And so, I respect his arm, I respect his accuracy, I respect his foot quickness and his electrifying speed. I have real troubles with his size, his durability and potentially can he last?"
"And then after that, for me, I just think this draft is a lot of collection of players that'll be average starters in the NFL, if they even start, or more backups," he continued. "Look. I think Haskins is not a West Coast offense guy. I think Haskins is not a rhythm thrower. I think he's a hold-the-ball, wait till it's open and throw it down the field.